2006-02-24 18:12:44

WOWZERS!!!

2006-02-24 18:19:32

Impressive

2006-02-24 18:58:19 In reply to Optimusv2 (2006-02-24 17:00:08)

That, I have to say, was unbelievable. I can't complain. I don't know what you people complaining are smoking, but this looked hot. I don't know how this game will actually differ from Dinasty Warriors' shallow gameplay, but I sure can't complain about the graphics.

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2006-02-24 19:01:26

For the love of god people never seem to be impressed they are doing alot of amazing things with this game so at the very least try to understand why somethings don't look BETTER THAN THE CG. Or some things had to be toned down. Also this game releases in april and AGAIN the game will look far superior than any screen or video when running on your 360.

(Dead or alive 4 is one such example, No screenshot truely shows how amazing it is to look at the grass, trees, walls, concrete, the fighters, the clothes they are wearing being rendered right there in front of you on the 360)

Alot of the experience is lost when you haven't seen doa 4 in action on a 360 instead of a screen or video. Which is why all the people claiming virtua fighter 5 looks WAYYYY better than dead or alive 4 are completely wrong they haven't truely seen doa 4 to make that judgement.

(as someone said realtime graphics even when they are at n3 cg calibur by then cg will have gotten better and people will continue craving for more and more because we will be never satisfied) As graphics improve people become greedy for more who else here remembers when we all thought metal gear solid for the playstation was THE pinnacle for graphics and we'd never see anything more amazing than that?


Hell you'd be shocked to see how many people are saying ghost recon... next gen my ass some idiots have even gone as far as to say counter-strike 1.6 looks better graphically and the sad part is they are DEAD serious they'd post screens of a downloaded texture upgrade for maps such as de_inferno then say compare the walls on this to that..

This game just looks amazing and I can't wait to play it.

Also there are armys in real life that move perfectly synchronized as well you guys have never seen members of the russian army marching? Or how about from somewhere like japan or china. VERY organized. I know i'm getting ridiculous, but EVERYONE here has seen at one point or another an army on television be that organized ;)

2006-02-24 19:14:11

Whatever they are smoking must be some good shit! It's funny I do remember how I taught MSG on the PS1 was "the" game when it came to graphics. Now I look at it and think "damn that looks like crap". I think we need to take them all and take away there consoles and let them play Pong for a year then hand them a next gen console so they can crap there pants.

2006-02-24 19:17:17

FIRST, i have to say that i was pretty much blown away by actually playing DOA 4 on my (Pal 16:9) Television. It is 100% true that seeing the Game in motion is a COMPLETE diffrent Thing that just looking at screens (or even Videos on your PC).
To be Honest, i thought DOA 4 wasnt a huge Step from DOA 3 and DOA U, but i was wrong.
Looking at the High Res Textures, for example on Jan Lees Body, almost every part of Cloths, and of course the Backgrounds - changed my Mind. The Backgrounds themselfs are - in one word, amazing, just think about the Sea Market. I have never seen a more lifelike, detailed or beautiful Stage like this in any Beat em Up before. And it will be tough to beat that. Virtua Fighter 5 wont feature such big and detailed Areas, so lets see what Tekken 6 does. In quite some Years...
So, people: Buy DOA 4 and see for yourselfs. Its Great.

Now to N3. I am impressed, wonderful Artdesign, amazing Mass-Destruction, propably great Story. This is one of the 360 Games im looking forward the most, alongside Rumble Roses XX.

2006-02-24 19:19:10

so when is this baby supposed to be on the Marketplace?

2006-02-24 19:23:37 In reply to Optimusv2 (2006-02-24 19:01:26)

2006-02-24 19:25:27 In reply to Optimusv2 (2006-02-24 19:01:26)

The CG is well done, but honestly the gameplay doesn't look like that hot.
And I've play DoA4 in person. It's the same game, higher res, better water, environments slightly more detailed and interactive. Not impressive if you take off the rose-colored glasses.

2006-02-24 19:34:53 In reply to josef (2006-02-24 19:25:27)

2006-02-24 19:46:28 In reply to josef (2006-02-24 19:25:27)

2006-02-24 19:51:00

Ill admit that the online is awesome, but do you guys remember when GTA3 first came out?
That was a huge jump in gaming. Graphics weren't really that special, but it was so much fun. A whole new way to play a game.

And I haven't seen that yet on 360. All I've seen is the same game with somewhat better graphics. Online is good though.

2006-02-24 19:56:29 In reply to superchunk (2006-02-24 19:46:28)

2006-02-24 19:58:35

Yea the changes are minor in doa 4, faster moves, the counter window is now MUCH shorter than it was previously basically everything that needed to be done to the game in terms of gameplay has been done to the game.

The hardcore dead or alive fans will be VERY pleased with doa 4.

Not every game is going to look like mgs4, gears of war, wardevil or project offset, but there are many games that don't look like that (and to be honest wasn't going for such a look in the first place that get the job done) Dead or Alive 4 couldn't be done by any stroke of the imagination on a current gen console.

Glad prez agrees with me because dead or alive 4 is a visually impressive game that doesn't get enough credit its hard to explain, but prez will know what I mean the just look at the GRASS.... on the safari stage with the cheetah or the trees on the jungle stage, the rocks, the water.... its really amazing. There is this amazing look to all the rendered grass and trees walls rocks that just can't be seen through screenshots.

At first glance doa 4 can seem like the same exact game.. environments are more than just slightly more detailed and interactive. Take the jungle stage for example there are certain moves that characters have where they can put their foot on a tree and run on it for a while or run on a rock then jump off to kick someone. Its impressive how you can just place your foot on any part of this environment. Like when ryu hyubusa does that move where he drives the person's head into the ground. It doesn't matter where if you are in a position where you can get your feet up on a tree or rock (just about anything) he will run up on that tree to add style to his move.

Hell do you don't even need a special move at times to pull off this stuff a simple back flip can get your character to put himself on a rock them propel himself off at the opponent.

I mean i've had doa 4 since the game released and on the temple stage for the first time I saw this entirely new area there were some stairs to the left after falling down the first 2 groups or so that you can fall down these other set of stairs and it takes you to this area where it appears you are fighting on some wooden surface its all pretty nice.

What makes doa 4 amazing is you can counter out of any and every move it seems no matter what the situation where your opponent is about to grab throw a high kick low kick low punch or high punch or diving at you with a kick there is a different type of counter for each just adds alot of depth to the fights.

Prez have you seen hayate's insane combo where he jumps behind you and uses his foot to kick you up into the air? Also lets not forget the amazing tag change combinations in the game ryu and hayate's team change combo is very nicely done.

Also if you pay attention to the characters in doa 4 they are straight cg quality characters check out ryu in his second costume where he shows his face and lets his hair hang down the back there are no mistakes anywhere. The only graphical hiccups in the game I'd say are the characters that have the long flowing hair the girls sometimes when their hair is going over the shoulders it seems a bit overdone and sometimes looks weird, but other than that the game is amazing graphically.

Back on topic ninety nine nights is amazing ;)

2006-02-24 20:07:35

It seems real life isn't next-gen enough for some folks either....

This looks fantastic. Going to have to set up a new live account to see the demo.

2006-02-24 20:10:28

Satoshi what is your take on blue dragon in the graphics department it has that comic like look that doa goes for, but of course in a more extreme manner. Would you rate that game next gen just trying to see if you are more in favor of the games that look amazingly real like a gears of war showing off veins or imperfections in the skin. Maybe you are more a fan of more realistic looking games than the ones that go for the popular glossy anime/comic type look.

Of course there is nothing wrong with that though its a matter of preference. Since i'm a huge anime fan things like doa 4, ninety nine nights, blue dragon, are right up my alley, Even enchant arm knowing its imperfections I'll still buy it if sees a usa release.

Project offset I'm impressed by, but I'll reserve final judgement till I see more WIDE OPEN environments, trees, grass, water THEN compare the character models we are fighting against on screen in the process to really judge. Because when we saw all those goblins before there was no environment to speak off.

If blue dragon's environements are anything like what I saw in dead or alive 4 (jungle, safari, temple stages) I'll consider that game the best looking game ever ;)

2006-02-24 21:00:24

hum i have mixed feelings about n3,something looks awesone..and something just looks like ps2 with better res.i 'll wait for the demo.BTW the trailer is well done..

2006-02-24 21:02:39

I'm pretty tired of seeing Project Offset being placed on a pedestal because we have yet to see what it will finally look like. I guess people just don't want to learn after disappointments of the past.

2006-02-24 21:30:46 In reply to satoshi (2006-02-24 19:56:29)

2006-02-24 21:38:30

@Optimusv2:
I have to say, when i saw the Cutscene between Elliot and Christie on the Heliport for the first Time, that was the Moment when i reallized how georgeus this Game really looks.
Elliots Hair, the Leather that Christie is wearing, the Depth-of-Field Effects, thats really some great Stuff.

But there will never be a Game everybody is pleased with. I mean, i personally adore the Way Rumble Roses XX looks, i think the Character Models are just mind-blowing.
But some People here in this Bord dont like it. Whatever!
There will be People (and there are People) that are not impressed even with MGS 4 or Gears of War. There will always be Critics, as well here on N3.
I mean, i read Comments like "in some spots it looks like a ps2 game".
Not, it dosent.
Propably some Enemys look similar in level of detail like in some better ps 2 games, BUT: in an ps2 game, you have propably 6 enemys on the screen. In N3, there are 300 of them.
Thats it. Next Gen, right there.

2006-02-24 21:41:12 In reply to satoshi (2006-02-24 19:23:37)

2006-02-24 22:14:31

hehe im tire of this next gen or not next gen thing. This game looks grate. I cant wait to play it looks really fun

2006-02-24 22:35:20 In reply to vspectra06 (2006-02-24 21:41:12)

2006-02-24 22:37:00

wow, simply astonishing! Can't wait to play the demo eaither but remember when you play the demo don't look at it for the graphics instead its a test run of the gameplay since the demo we are getting is the e3 demo.

Oh and the next-gen grapics some people are saying well they just want it to be a noticable jump. Like say how snes-n64 and n64-sega dreamcast.

However the true next-gen stuff probley won't come till we get actual vr-glasses and gloves.

but for me next-gen means better shading, better handling of multiple chars. and better detail. so far i'v seen all of this on say fight night round 3 and future titles comming for the xbox.

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2006-02-24 23:06:38

after watching that i now need to change my pants......xbox1.5 my ass